PHOENIX—At AmericaFest 2025, viewers have witnessed conflicts between major conservative commentators, including dueling speeches from Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.
In an interview with The Epoch Times, Roger Stone suggested that the sound and fury signifies very little to much of the United States.
“I think a lot of this is inside baseball,” Stone, a longtime ally of President Donald Trump, said.
Stone said that he was in line at a grocery store the previous evening with seven people who told him they intend to vote next year in the midterm elections.
“Not a single one of them knew who Candace Owens was. Not a single one of them knew who Ben Shapiro was. A few of them knew who Tucker Carlson was, and they liked him,” he said....